The Rotary Nostalgia Thread

[Savoia]

Summary of Scottish Helicopter Companies: 1960 - 1980's

I have more in depth info on each company/individual, but here is an initial list. (I have excluded the oil-related offshore companies which we all know about).



Airgo Ltd (Glasgow)
Air Service Training Ltd (Perth)
Airwork Services Ltd (Perth)
Burnthills Plant Hire Ltd (Glasgow)
David McKenzie Carnegie (Laurenckirk) Agricultural spraying
Francis Fitzralph Chamberlain
Christian Salvesen Ltd (Edinburgh)
Dickson Motors (Perth) Ltd
Dollar Air Services Ltd
Fife & Kinross Motor Auctions Ltd
Forfar Potato Co Ltd
Fras-Air Ltd
Alexander Muir Simpson Gilmour (SAGIL Helicopters)
Walter Glen
Gleneagles Helicopters Ltd (Edinburgh)
Heliscot Ltd (Inverness)
Jack Tatties Ltd
Mackan Group Ltd (Aberdeen)
Management Aviation Ltd (Aberdeen)
Daniel Simpson McGillivray (Heli Highland/ Wasp)
Alexander George Norrie (Turriff)
North Scottish Helicopters Ltd (Aberdeen/Inverness)
PLM Helicopters Ltd
Sims Automatics Ltd (Glasgow)
Taxicabs (City) Ltd (Glasgow)
Thistle Metallics Ltd (Motherwell)
Valley of Gleneagles Helicopters Ltd
Western Air (Scotland) Partners Ltd (WASP) (Glasgow)

I'm sure more will be added.

There were a few companies with helicopters before the 60's and hundreds more between the 80's and current date... but that's another list!

Helipixman

Mamma Mia Elipix .. this is unbelievable!

I thought there were just a handful from that period - but it is great to see so many more! Grazie mille!

It would be wonderful to find out more about some of the lesser known operators in the times ahead.

[Helipixman]

SCOTTISH Companies 1960-80s - for Sav

I have more in depth info on each company/individual, but to start with here is a list of company names.....
I have left out the main oil related offshore companies which we all know about.

Airgo Ltd (Glasgow)
Air Service Training Ltd (Perth)
Airwork Services Ltd (Perth)
Burnthills Plant Hire Ltd (Glasgow)
David McKenzie Carnegie (Laurenckirk) Agricultural spraying
Francis Fitzralph Chamberlain
Christian Salvesen Ltd (Edinburgh)
Dickson Motors (Perth) Ltd
Dollar Air Services Ltd
Fife & Kinross Motor Auctions Ltd
Forfar Potato Co Ltd
Fras-Air Ltd
Alexander Muir Simpson Gilmour (SAGIL Helicopters)
Walter Glen
Gleneagles Helicopters Ltd (Edinburgh)
Heliscot Ltd (Inverness)
Jack Tatties Ltd
Mackan Group Ltd (Aberdeen)
Management Aviation Ltd (Aberdeen)
Daniel Simpson McGillivray (Heli Highland/ Wasp)
Alexander George Norrie (Turriff)
North Scottish Helicopters Ltd (Aberdeen/Inverness)
PLM Helicopters Ltd
Sims Automatics Ltd (Glasgow)
Taxicabs (City) Ltd (Glasgow)
Thistle Metallics Ltd (Motherwell)
Valley of Gleneagles Helicopters Ltd
Western Air (Scotland) Partners Ltd (WASP) (Glasgow)

I'm sure more will be added

There were a few companies with helis before the 60s and hundreds more between the 80s and current date... but that's another list !

Helipixman

[Savoia]

Bell 206B G-BAUM (cn 987) as seen at Gloucester Staverton on 9th June 1974 (Photo: Bernard Mills)

This Bell-built 206 was delivered to Fairoaks Aviation in 1973 before being sold to SG Blair & Co. of Runcorn in Cheshire (a plumbing and heating firm). In 1977 she was sold to Brands Hatch-based Shawline Helicopters and the following year joined the PLM fleet at Dalcross in Inverness.

Sadly, ten years after her arrival in the UK, on 13th July 1983, this craft came a cropper at Glen Almond in Perthshire during an external load-lifting operation (accident report).

[Savoia]

Lawrie Barratt with Agusta-Bell 206B JetRanger II G-BEKH (cn 8531) c. 1978

G-BEKH in action ..

[Savoia]

Some more nostalgia from Filippo's days ..


Agusta-Bell 206B JetRanger II G-RODS (cn 8435) as seen at Gloucester Staverton on 15th May 1988 (Photo courtesy of Zishelix)

Seen here on hire to Blades Helicopters.

[Savoia]

Island Helicopters Bell 206L (possibly N16959) over Manhattan c. 1979


Island helicopters Bell 206L N16959 as seen at East 34th Street Heliport in New York on 15th April 1981

[Savoia]

United Marine's Agusta-Bell 206A G-AYBE (cn 8192) as seen at Cranfield in September 1976 (Photo: Mike Springet)

Shortly after this photo, this craft was exported to France where she flew as F-GALU for the best part of two decades. She returned to the UK in 1996 and was eventually registered as G-GUST prior to being withdrawn from use in 2011.

[Savoia]

Ferranti Agusta-Bell 206B JetRanger II G-AZZB (cn 8327) as seen at Cranfield Aerodrome on 8th September 1979 (Photo: Ray Barber)

Flew frequently in this craft as a youngster (along with the other Ferranti 206's) and got to fly her myself in the early 80's when the late Colin Bates gave me a base check.

'ZB' was bought by Air Hanson in 1981 and then sold to what used to be known as Valley of Gleneagles Helicopters (later Gleneagle Helicopters) in 1984.

[Savoia]

Air Hanson's Bell 206L G-BFTR (cn 139) as seen at Shoreham on 30th July 1980 (Photo: Ray Barber)

[Savoia]

Ah .. "Katie" (G-BAKT) .. the first helicopter I ever flew in! She will always be so special to me. One day I will share some photos from that memorable day.

Re: G-CHOP .. ex-Army Air Corps Westland Sioux XT221, which after being de-commissioned, was bought by Alec Wortley. I read that this craft appeared in a 2011 movie called "X-Men: First Class"?

To see G-CHOP from 1980, click on the link to the right >>> http://alecwortley.co.uk/hg14.htm

[Savoia]

Lovely to see the 'Towers Ranger" in her home. JLB was reviewing the plans for this by the time the Colonel left, so I never got to see the end product .. till now!

[Savoia]

Some nice nostalgia there Filippo!

I hope the guys from Booker bought you a bottle of your favourite tipple in compensation for the inconvenience of having a disconnected cyclic in your hand! Surely a most disconcerting experience!

G-COIN is of course ex-EI-AWA which used to belong to Denis Ferranti.

[Savoia]

Bravo Elipix! I thought this was the case.

Looking forward to seeing your Scottish operators list, and which I am sure will include PLM.

[Phil Croucher]

This is my first underslung load with Burnthills - a washing machine that someone won as a prize, delivered to a destination somewhere in Edinburgh. The Hoover sign was about to fly off by the time we were finished!


G-CHOP on pleasure flying duties somewhere in South Wales, being flown by Peter Boitel-Gill

[Helipixman]

HELISCOT LTD

There was another Heliscot based at Inverness in the 70-80s. It was founded by Andrew Neal & Francis Chamberlain in 1974. I think an additional director was Peter Scott - Peter Scott Agriculture at Walton Wood (G-BDFO, G-BEFY, G-BFLR)

Heliscot had Hillers G-BDFO, G-BEDK, G-BEFY, G-BFLR and Skeeter G-SARO.

No connection to the current Heliscot Helicopters (Scotland) Ltd, that is Graham Martlew who operates Longranger G-PTOO.

I also have a list of all Helicopter operators in Scotland from beginning to present day (Hope to type it up for SAV 60-80s only)

Helipixman

[Phil Croucher]

One for Sav ..

G-JLBI (the Alton Towers LongRanger) in her hangar at Tilston Hall:

[Phil Croucher]

Been digging around the log book and came up with the following:


Flying G-COIN when she belonged to Cabair


Flying G-ROGR at about the time the cyclic decided to come 'undone' during a pleasure flying job somewhere following the steam fairs.


Flying visitors to the Isle of Mann TT races with G-TKHM and ended-up with a drinking partner ..

[Phil Croucher]

And when the weather cleared-up a bit:

[Phil Croucher]

This is a shot of G-TKHM from Kilroe - i was slinging cement and stuff up a mountainside at Blanaeu to stop the mountain falling on the village but low cloud stopped play.

Phil

[Savoia]

De Havilland, many thanks for this info. Great stuff!

Another shot of 'Double Lima':


Agusta-Bell 206A G-AWLL (cn 8076) as seen at Gloucester Staverton Airport in August 1974 (Photo: Keith C Wilson)

Owned at the time of this photo (and as pointed-out by Ahh de Havilland) by Kenneth McAlpine.

And another take of G-AVTE .. still wearing her ground handling wheels!


Bell 206A G-AVTE (cn 066) as seen on the General Aviation Apron at Heathrow on 7th July 1976 (Photo: Trevor Warne)

[Savoia]

Tarman yes, the ground handling wheels are still attached. This issue cropped-up on the old thread when someone piped-up and explained that in such cases they were bolted onto the undercarriage. Ferranti never allowed this practice; though, (sadly) not for safety reasons, but because the Colonel didn't like the look of them still attached!

As you probably recall, in those days 206 'boot extenders' didn't exist, and the float inflation bottles occupied the for'ard section of the boot. If you you also stowed the ground handling wheels and overnight covers there, you quickly began running out of space, and which became a nuisance if you had pax with baggage for example.

[Ahh de Havilland]

McAlpine Helicopters

The McAlpine company colours were red & black on a white background as can be seen on G-BBHW above. However, G-AWLL and its replacement G-BBSI carried the same pale green livery; this was taken from the McAlpine coat of arms. This was appropriate as they were Kenneth McAlpine's personal helicopters.

[Tarman]

Does that Jetranger still have wheels attached to the pop outs ?

[Savoia]

Of Abbotsinch, McAlpine, 70's JetRangers, and aircraft with the letters A, W, and L in their registration ..


HS125-3B G-AWWL (cn 25169) with Bell 206A G-AVTE (cn 066) as seen at Glasgow's Abbotsinch Airport on 12th February 1974
(Photo: Paul Thallon)

Seen here at Abbotsinch is G-AVTE alongside McAlpine's HS125. G-AVTE was the first Bell-built 206 in the UK, and the tenth JetRanger overall delivered to the UK. Of the first ten 206's registered in the UK, only two were non-Bristow - G-AVTE (above) and which was owned by BSR of Staffordshire, and G-AVSN (the fourth to be registered in the UK) and which belonged to Ferranti.

While considering Scotland, can anyone recall whether there was a "Heli-Scot" prior to its current manifestation, ie. during the 70's or 80's? I wouldn't mind drawing-up a list of Scottish (domestic) helicopter operators between 1960-1980.

Btw, the Colonel had a story regarding the origins of this airport's name but, as applies to many of his stories, it is unrepeatable in public.

[Helipixman]

Well that's three of us now....

Wiggy, Tarman and Elipix. We will have to start a Scottish Nostalgia page. I have plenty of shots taken in Scotland from about the 90s onwards.

Helipixman

[Savoia]

Great stuff Tarman. I shall try and dig up some additional shots of this craft!

I may have to pass by bonnie Scotland in the future!

[Tarman]

I'm from Glasgow too Sav !!

G-AWLL was the first aircraft, let alone helicopter, that I flew in.

[Savoia]

For Elipix and Wiggy ..


Dickson Motors Agusta-Bell 206A G-AWLL (cn 8076) as seen at Glasgow's Abbotsinch Airport in 1975 (Photo: Hugh McMillan)

Visible behind 'Double Lima' is McAlpine's SA341G G-BBHW. As it happens G-AWLL, which was delivered to the UK in 1968, started out as a McAlpine bird.

[Savoia]

Okay, grazie.

[md600driver]

can't be awlc as this is a 313 not a 318