Does anyone know the exact RAL colours of ex-French camo scheme please.
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#4171.1Editing a commentFabrice, can you assist with this? -
Sorry, I can't be of a great help on this one. I just have the reference of the 'army green' used until the mid 90's approximately, which disappeared as the three tone camouflage was progressively introduced. And this reference is not an 'RAL' number ('army green 2420', high infrared reflectance).
Fabrice
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Not Gazelles, but continues the SFT story a little ...
Not only did SFT use the Slingsby T67M Firefly, they also had Norman NDN-1T Firecrackers.
Wonder if Nosco ever got a trip in one of them and what was it like ... looks like a really fast machine. Don't think they were a great success, most of them went to the USA.
G-SFTS Seen at Farnborough
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Very interesting Elipix, grazie.
It seems the Firecracker lost out to the Shorts Tucano in the MoD's Jet Provost replacement competition, effectively sealing the aircraft's fate. -
No, I never flew in one.
One 'aeroplane only' batch of students trained on the T67M and then progressed onto the NDN-1T.
Only two PT6 powered 'Firecrackers' ever flew. A third was partially constructed and registered (G-SFTT) but I never saw it, then or since (even in a photo).
The NDN-1T was not 'Gucci' enough for the RAF, so I was told. The PC-9 was their favourite in that 1984 competition, but the Government selected the Tucano for them. Now retired, the Tucano has been replaced by the Beechcraft T-6 variant of the PC-9!
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SA342M HA-HSG (cn.3615) as seen at Sherburn-in-Elmet Airfield on 18th January 2020 (Photo by Jez Poller)
XW845, XW895 and XW907 as seen at RNAS Yeovilton on 6th October 1997
Gaz Frame to be Auctioned
The fuselage of XX403 is to be auctioned at midday on 28th January.
For further details see here.
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SA341B ZA772 (WA1814) as seen at Middle Wallop on 29th October 2013
SA341C G-CBGZ (WA1915) as seen at Breighton on 21st September 2014 (Photo by Malcolm Clarke)
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New Addition to US Register
N341CF, SA341G, c/n 1286. Registered 13-Jan-2020 to Qualitair LLC Trustee, Michelstadt (Germany).
This is the former C-GXQE,which was involved in an accident on 22-Jun-1981 (crashed and caught fire upon landing).
See https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/152607
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'C/n 1286 is repaired!?' .. Perhaps it was an RBD repair (reconstruction by dataplate!)
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Another one 'TB Gaz'? (TB - Trigger's Broom) A TV character called Trigger from legendary Only Fools and Horses TV show who talks about his sweeping brush which he has had for many years but which has had lots of replacement handles and brush ends. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HisD_pqlRHQ
However, the 'broom' is airworthy again and that's only matter!
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Reconstruction by Dataplate !!!!
This seems to be done regularly. There is a chap on ebay presently selling log books and data plates from a Bell 206 and an AB206 ?
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SA341B G-BZYD (WA1648) as seen at Blackbushe on 21st January 2020 (Photo by Glyn Jones)
And seeing as we recently discussed SFT ..
SA341G G-SFTD (cn.1145) as seen at Brand's Hatch in 1984 (Photo by Anton Heumann)
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Keeping up the ancient custom of exchanging wheels and axles between chariots, first practiced in the little known Grecian town of Swapadopolis!
In all fairness, this does happen within companies operating the same type, only that the parts are usually painted to match the recipient aircraft. However, I will concede that SFT did seem to engage in an unusual amount of part swapping, possibly due to the prangs from some of their training sorties?
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Anyone able to confirm info about SA.342M 3866/GNI accident in 2018 during Operation Licorne?
http://www.aviafora.com/forums/forum...=9530#post9530Last edited by Zishelix; 23rd January 2020, 15:14.Comment
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G-CTFS Amended Registration Details
There has been a nominal change to the registration details of G-CTFS with the registered owner having changed to Beverley Polo Club Ltd on 13.1.20.
This is still the same owner, Andrew Foreman, proprietor of Catfoss Cabin Hire at Catfoss Industrial Estate in Yorkshire, which is one of his many businesses.
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SA341B G-CHMF (WA1999) as seen at Stapleford in 2012 (Photo by Martin Uzzell)
Now flying in South Africa as ZU-RNO.
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SA341G(S) F-GBMC (WA1065) as seen in France c.1980 (Photo by Chris McKee)
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The CAA have issued a Mandatory Permit Directive in relation to the fenestron on ex-military Gazelles.
Ex-Military Westland Gazelle Helicopters (All Marks and Serial Numbers)
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/MPD2020001.pdfA new manufacturing process of the tail rotor blade (TRB) was implemented, affecting the structural characteristic of this critical part. Consequently, new P/N 341A335101.01, P/N 341A335130.05 and P/N 341A335130.06/ were allocated and an applicable Service Life Limit (SLL) of 21250 FH was established, which has been identified as mandatory action for continued airworthiness.
Failure to comply with this requirement could result in an unsafe condition.
It was also determined that certain new-manufactured TRB were improperly identified with P/N 341A335130.04. Prompted by this finding, Airbus Helicopters (AH) published the ASB. Providing instruction for re-identification of those affected parts.
In February 2019, EASA published AD 2019-0034 in cooperation with Airbus Helicopters. It is deemed that there is sufficient applicability to the ex-military fleet in the UK operating on a Permit to Fly (PtF) to warrant this MPD.
For the reasons described above, this MPD requires re-identification of the affected parts and implementation of the applicable SLL to all TRB having P/N 341A335101.01, P/N 341A335101.01, P/N 341A335130.05 and P/N 341A335130.06.
This MPD has been raised to address this potential unsafe condition.
Effective Date: 6 February 2020
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Grazie Elipix!
XB, would you be able to explain in a little more detail what this is about? -
http://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/MPD2020001.pdf
Apparently this only applies to ex-UK MOD birds. t/r blades should be replaced once they reach 21250 flight hours. Not sure if any ex-MOD Gazelles operating under a permit to fly have reached this amount of FH though.
The AH ASB states that it is only a re-labelling of the p/n due to new manufacturing, without affecting the SLL.
If someone needs the AH ASB GAZ-01.36, pm me and I'll send it to you (it lists all affected t/r blade s/n).Last edited by xbdt; 25th January 2020, 11:53.
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Avia member Anja with Serbian Air Force Gazelle in Serbia in January 2020 (Photos courtesy of Anja)
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Sunny photo for a rainy day
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Back to the HSL theme - G-BAGL at Westlands Open Day in May 12th, 1984 (Photo: Robert Nichols)
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SA342M HA-HSG (cn.3615) as seen at North Coates Airfield on 12th January 2020 (Photo by Paul Harvey)
SA341B G-HSDL (WA1227) as seen at her home hangar in Burnley, Lancashire on 6th January 2020 (Photo by Ben Sadler)
Question: Are we looking at what is essentially a forklift truck albeit with super-long forks beneath 'Helga'?
SA34MV as seen in Djibouti in January 2020 crewed by 3/3 Squadron
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The patch of the 3rd Combat Helicopter Regiment (3e Régiment d'Hélicoptères de Combat – RHC) stationed in Étain at Base Lieutenant Étienne Mantoux. Nicknamed "Night Regiment", 3rd RHC became the specialist in night fighting by using the VIVIANE viewfinder on Gazelle from the beginning of its deployment.Comment
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Good looking N341GG (cn.1181) at Isle of Man in June 2019 (Photo: IOM Aviation Photography)
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SA342MV F-MGAO with SA342M F-MGCI as seen at Besançon La Vèze Aerodrome in France on 27th January 2020
SA342MV F-MGAP with SA342M F-MGEV as seen at Phalsbourg-Bourscheid in France on 2nd July 2017 operated by 1 RHC
SA341F2 ZU-RED (cn.1285) as seen in Transkei, South Africa in November 2017
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SA341B ZA772 (WA1814) as seen at Middle Wallop in 2009
SA342L 237 (cn.1854) as seen at Baldonnel Casement Aerodrome on 23rd July 1996 (Photo by Fred Willemsen)Comment
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C/n 1001 F-WIEP used as a test registration and first flew on 6.8.71 It became F-WTNA another test registration and eventually became EC-DUR with a new c/n 1185
Anyone know exactly when the c/n changed and why ?
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1001 was the first serially produced Gazelle, equipped w/ AIIIA turbo shaft, regd F-WIEP 8/71 to SNIAS (Aerospatiale). After flying for a while as an test-bed and demo machine, rebuilt in 1975 and become SA.342 demo w/ Astazou XIV and got new reg F-WTNA & c/n 1185. Later sold to Spain (EC-DUR), destroyed in 1992 at Malaga.
Nice photo finding, btw!
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Thanks Zis
I have more photos of c/n 1001 flying without any reg visible !
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SA341B XZ338 (WA1682) as seen near Middle Wallop in July 2007 (Photo by Philip Stevens)
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F-WTNA c/n 1185 as demo machine for SA.342M variant.
An interesting concept of upgrading Gazelle for the next millennium… regd F-WTNA, of course
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Well well we have seen it all now, Gazelle converted into a Car, Truck, Sculpture and now at least something it will be used to fly !
Maybe if somebody from Airbus Helicopters looks at this - well who knows ?
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It's enough to make you wiep!
When I was young, my father taught me how to make a host of different paper planes including a paper cone (see link) and I was surprised to see just how effectively a cylinder can fly! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw7YnjEnLaE
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More photographs of C/n 1001, presumably still while it was F-WIEP but does not seem to carry the registration on the airframe ?
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Well done, Helipix! Must say I haven't seen these pics before. Strange to see it flying with no reg.
http://www.aviafora.com/forums/forum...=3240#post3240
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'GEY'
SA342M F-MGEY being handled on deck.
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Given Elipix's lovely historic shots of F-WIEP/WTNA .. I have been compelled to trawl my own (much smaller) collection of cn.1001
F-WTNA as seen at Battersea in the 1970's (Westland Archives)
Battersea Heliport in the 1970's (Westland Archives)
I recall seeing this display at Battersea in the mid-70's when I would regularly visit the heliport aboard one of Ferranti's JetRangers.
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SA341F2 N341MG (cn.1482) as seen Stateside in January 2020
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New Gazelle on South African Register
ZU-ROJ SA341B AH.1 (WA1987) Registered to Aviator at Work Party Ltd 3.12.19
This is ex G-CIEX a former Crabtree Gaz. So my question is.. did this go to Hungary before travelling to South Africa ?
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SA341G G-HTPS (cn.1301) as seen at Cranfield on 7th July 1990 (Photo by Keith Wilson)
SA341B ZA772 (WA1814) belonging to 665 Squadron as seen at RAF Fairford on 15th July 2018 (Photo by Paul Brockdorff)Comment
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Gazelles Cancelled from US Register
Aerospatiale SA34X Inc have cancelled two Gazelles on 31-Jan-2020:
N171GZ SA341F2, c/n 1171
N312GZ SA341F2, c/n 1312
Does anyone know their fate?
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I wonder if any of the people in the photograph below are hopefully still with us or if any have any current connections within Airbus Helicopters. I think some of them are from ALAT.
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